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The other week, our board found a site called Dangerous Lilly.
Dangerous Lilly is what chubby chasers refer to as a “fat girl.” She eats regularly and posts pictures of the food she eats which includes fried chicken, fettucini alfredo, and an assortment of other heavy people food. She talks about sploshing, which is having sex with food, and writes erotica in her spare time, which may be true stories. I’m not sure. She also posts naked pictures of her boobies in her spare time.
And it all started here.
So where is Dangerous Lilly now? Well one of our board members decided to go behind enemy lines to find out. The result is this little conversation.
DJ: Hi Luka! [editor's note: hehehe. Luka.]
How are you?
I’m one of those “we’re so mean…but only in a gang…anonymously…on the net, safe at home with the door locked” people you talk about.
This post in question is nothing like you described. It doesn’t attack her for “being fat” at all. I’m fat. The writer of said article is fat. It’s not the fat we care about. In fact the writer even calls her sexy and says she turns him on. The only problem he has is those sexy fat women who think they are sexy fat women (which she has posted she is “fat”) but who claim its healthy. I’ll admit she doesn’t claim that but the writer of said blog didn’t do a lot of research. He’s not big into research when it comes to short posts on a group blog.
And he does say he is disgusted but why is that an insult? Just because ONE person doesn’t find your particular self attractive? We ALL have been guilty of being disgusted by someone based simply on appearance. Anyone who claims different is lying.
You all make us out to be fat hating people. We aren’t. I love myself and I’m fat.
And to all the other posters who devolve into calling us names and labeling us trolls, you think you’re any better than us? You are just quick to whip out insults without even knowing us.
DangerousLilly: DJ: I specifically hereby call you exempt from the bad words being spoken. Partially because you’re 18 and not old enough to know better yet and partially because you’re not being cruel. There is a world of difference in me calling myself “fat” and the author of the post hurling it as an insult, for he did so mean it as an insult. His title “Ever Fuck a Fatty”? Yeah, nice. Him insisting that even though my tits are great, the rest of me must be a mess? Noooo thats not insulting *at all*. I’m supposed to be flattered and overlook the insults just because he said I’m sexy….until you see me? That he’s not sure whether to be turned on or disgusted?
Many of my friends commenting here have seen the whole thread, starting with the first reply as “blog war is go”. Nice. They also read the emails between Rob and I that he so kindly posted for you all to read and laugh over. But it’s these that really hurt me, these that brought on the “troll” term because he was trying to upset me and trying to get more responses for which he could entertain the troops.
I wrote: “No, actually, I’m NOT ok with you and your members publicly ridiculing me. You know what? It’s not nice. It’s hurtful, and it’s mean. When you go and do your Freak of the Day against a celebrity or a nobody that you read an article about once online, that’s a bit damn different from doing this to someone’s face. Which, since you decided to link to my post and the site pinged it so that I know about it….it IS to my face, at least in my opinion.
Does it make you guys feel good to do that? No, really, I’d like to know.
Do you get enjoyment out of hurting people? Does it make you giggle to know that the nasty words made me cry for a minute?”
And then Rob (and the “collective the board members”) wrote: “I’m sorry you’re upset, but on a website where you openly call yourself fat, post pictures of food, and your boobs, what would you expect the outcome to be? I didn’t write that article; I just read it today because of your email, but now that I’m involved…I have many questions:
Why would you care what we write? Did you think the author of that post was THAT hard on you? It seemed kind of complimentary.
My board members want to know:
My board members want to know if your tears smell like gravy. Do they? And if so, what kind: Fresh or canned?
Are you fat because you were pregnant and never lost the weight? Still pregnant? Glandular? Laziness?
Do you have a rascal? How do you feel about them as a mode of transportation?
Are you allowed to go on amusement park rides or Segways? Are you excluded from them.
What’s your favorite food? And don’t say everything.
Have you ever put chapstick on your lips, liked the smell of it and ate your chapstick?
Was the Haiti quake caused by you falling out of bed looking for a gummy bear that unstuck out of your knee fat?”
Prior to this I was NOT attacking Rob, I simply emailed him because he is the site owner.
Then you guys actually took the time to hunt down my damn Twitter account and start posting my tweets when I said I was upset, more fodder for them to laugh about. It’s this that I find appalling. That the more hurt I am, the more the members of that board seem to enjoy it.
I was upset as well because, as you pointed out, the writer of the post is telling everyone how I claim I’m healthy and that all fat people are healthy. Nope, never once said that and in fact I’ve said the opposite quite a few times.
It doesn’t matter now. I’m not going back to read any more of what is said there, and I’m done feeling hurt. I know what I am, I know I’m more than my numbers on a scale, and I know what I’m doing to better myself.
Rayne says:
DJ: I don’t exempt you from the harsh words for being 18. 18 is plenty old enough to have developed decent reading comprehension skills. You know you and your lot are a bunch of dicks. Stand up for what’s right or crawl back under the dick rock.
18’s such young age to be labeled “that guy who can’t tell the difference between his ass and a hole in the ground” for the rest of your life. For the love of Pete, pull your head out of the sand.
Elise says:
I am so damned tired of skinny being the only acceptable way to be sexy. Screw that. Lilly, you are amazing. The sexiest people I know are just people who own their sexuality. You have a quality that makes you shine Lilly, and you would shine whether you weighed 90 lbs. or 600.
And there you have it. My questions are still left unanswered. I do want to address a few things:
None of your fans, Lilly…none of them know you in real life. You are an internet caricature of what you want to be in real life, and you use the internet to create a persona and hide behind that persona because in all probability, nobody can stand the sight of you in reality. Your commentors know nothing about you. They don’t have any emotional investment in what you do with yourself. You’re being used as a chubby chaser’s spank bank. Nothing more. Nothing less. Don’t use your website as a fat people’s support group when the only thing you use to represent yourself are poorly written stories of you getting nailed in a car, pictures of food you eat, and cropped nude photos.
What makes me laugh about this whole situation is not that you’re just an easy fat target to make fun of on the internet. No. You’ve most likely been that fat easy target all of your life. You being fat and having a blog doesn’t make you the target. You having a blog for the explicit reason of hiding the truth about your true feelings makes you a target. You’re not ok with being fat, and you’re using your “fans” as an excuse to live a new life away from the life you’ve always hated. You use your blog to find your self-esteem, and it probably works…until you have to turn your computer off and face reality where people don’t see a Photoshopped version of your boobs and can smell the fat smell that fat people have. If that’s what you want, the internet is the right place to find that niche of people who will love you for your…well whatever it is people love you for, but that goes away when your cable modem goes out, doesn’t it?
My beef isn’t with you being overweight. Freak Safari and the internet in general has a long history of people pretending to be who they aren’t, making fun of fat people when they’re not thin themselves, self-deception. I’m no stranger to seeing internet lies, which is why it’s so easy to call bullshit on you. You’re not happy with yourself. In all likelihood you probably HATE yourself. So stop pretending you don’t for a few minutes. The real you is probably much more interesting.
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